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Hello, can anyone knowledgeable about meditation advise me?

I recently became involved in animal activism – it’s been lovely, met a few charming, courageous and incredibly compassionate people (who were very intelligent and very far from the ‘loony eco-warrior’ stereotype, actually), but it’s also been absolutely terrifying discovering how many appalling things are still done to the non-human beings we share this planet with. I did not know about them until recently. I don’t know if you’ve glanced at recently to run your eye over the current issues, but they certainly aren’t ‘making up’ the appalling cruelties they describe – thinking, feeling, nonhuman beings really ARE being skinned alive, burned alive, beaten, tortured, raped, killed, starved, drowned and abused, on a daily basis. And it’s billions and billions of them this is happening to.

How to cope? I have the knowledge that this unimaginable cruelty is going on, along with a few other animal activists, but I think the scale of the atrocity is so incomprehensible and the industries that perpetuate it are so keen to hide the truth, that the average person on the street isn’t very aware of it.

I’ve started Tong-len and Metta meditation recently, but I’m not sure these are good for me. Tong-len made me suicidal, and Metta, although lovely…I don’t know I need help feeling more compassion, feeling so much compassion gives me terrible pain already!

Knowing about the suffering of others and yet not being able to stop it gives me such pain I contemplate suicide just to escape it, or even wish I could somehow un-know the horrendous things I know (though I don’t think that’s physically possible, and it would only make me part of the problem to try and forget and ‘join in’ with causing cruelty).

Does anyone have a recommendation for a meditation technique I could use to calm my brain down? How can I manage the pain of knowing about others’ suffering? Or am I just being selfish – after all, the pain of watching a video of someone being skinned alive screaming is, I suppose, considerably less pain than actually BEING skinned alive screaming? Perhaps my suffering is nothing compared to theirs…

I’m sorry for the painfulness you’re experiencing, and I think you’re great for dedicating such energy to the well being of living creatures. That you’re seeking to restore your own balance, your own peace of mind… its not selfish, its needed. There is a balance that we have to find between become stable and yet not burying our head in the sand. A few things came to heart as I read your words.

Consider that perhaps what you’re experiencing isn’t compassion, but empathy. Empathy is the emotional vibration of painfulness or pleasantness that arises inside us as we watch the emotional states of others. Its is good to have a strong empathy, but it is also important to have boundaries.

Compassion looks and feels a little different. As you watch a company and person skin an animal for instance, compassion arises as you recognize that the actions are producing suffering for all. The person skinning is generating karma from his ignorance, as he or she blinds the empathic eye to be able to do such a thing. The animal suffers from the confusion and panic arising along side the painfulness. The people who eat the meat of the animal help fund and institutionalize the process. Compassion is the well rooted sense that investing our energy in such enterprises just doesn’t make sense, and is well balanced for all beings involved with the actions. When empathy is stronger than compassion, sometimes we can over extend our focus onto the direct physical painfulness, such as the skinning, and produce pity. Pity is not helpful.

It sounds to me that you’re experiencing emotional fatigue, perhaps even burnout. Its good that you wish to press into the bowels of the world and help right wrongs. However, it is more important, or at least equally important, to grow your peacefulness deeply. Your experience with tonglen is a great example of why. As you breathed in the suffering of the animals, ideally the breath collides with the crystal web of warmth inside your chest and evaporates, and your out breath carries with it love and peacefulness. However, for you it seems as though it “stuck” inside, like mud being thrown on a white shirt… until it grew heavy.

I highly suggest that you move toward a metta practice, and stop watching videos of animals being tortured. Perhaps if you become complacent and lazy, watching a video will rekindle your motivation to help humanity shed such practices. If you already have that motivation, then what benefit does entertaining yourself in such a way provide you? Isn’t the suffering of the skinner and skinned enough? You’ve noticed that your voyeurism is producing even more pain for the world in the retching within your heart… its OK to do something else with your time.

Its not selfish to do so, its wise. Consider the net energy balance of the world. As you turn away from the videos, your body will become warm again, flowing with love and light. This increases the amount of love and light in the world, which helps move you and all who empathize with you toward joy. If you spend time absorbing and watching painfulness, your body is suicidal and depressed, which doesn’t help you or those around you find peace. This is why respecting suffering and yet having wise boundaries is so important.

For instance, say we see someone with a broken ankle. We can sit down and stare at it, really feeling the painfulness and brokenness of the ankle. Our heart focuses so intently that we begin to feel our own ankle hurting. Now, instead of one ankle being unprepared to carry the weight, there are two. Where you could have been someone to lean on for support, now you and the other need supporting! Now, the ankle has to be tended by four beings instead of two! The one broken, the one to support her, you, and the one needed to support you.

The shift toward metta is what allows our heart to become resilient. I would say that it increases compassion, but not directly. It increases our inner warmth, and smooths out our mind. We become free from greed, hatred, and aversion. Metta is more about kindness, friendship. Being able to work with others in a way that is mutually nourishing and respectful… knowing that that is how the world moves toward joy. Not through hate and judgment, but through peace and understanding. Namaste.

With warmth,

When I first started tonglen, it was very difficult and I felt worse rather than better. But right now what you might need is some boundary work. I know I take on a lot of emotional energy from other sources.

Imagine yourself in a protective bubble, surrounded by light and love. Practice compassion towards yourself first. And, Matt is right – stop watching the videos! Create the intention to focus on things that are beautiful and that create delight for you.

When you feel healthy and whole, you can be of better service to others. Good luck!

Thankyou so much, Matt – it is so helpful of you to take the time to write a long and detailed reply. Thankyou also Loran, you both make good points.

I should really have tried to ask assistance from a teacher at my local Sangha before attempting difficult meditations, but I wasn’t sure how to broach the topic (even to my own ears, it sounds like an odd and unusual question!) or if it would be right to ask a stranger something so personal. A yoga teacher isn’t there to be my personal therapist, I guess! However, in future I will try and seek at least a little guidance from like-minded people and not get myself into unhealthy mind states through my own ignorance and poor application of techniques.

Thankyou both for the good advice! x

Thankyou for this brilliant post,

I was looking on the internet hoping for some similar advise. A few years ago, I went to medical school.
Slowly, I began to realise, through the general aura of the place and meeting people there the vast shadow
of medicine. It was after having dropped out that I finally read the statistics on abortion and that people
now call it an abortion holocaust. Generally the process was too much for me and I did lots of bad things
and I have lots of things which now cause me pangs of guilt.

But putting aside self-control issues, and thinking more about inner stuff, I feel mainly that now I have learned
how to experience empathy (I was born with dissociation disorder and didn’t used to know how to generate
much in the way of emotion)….I’m finding that I sort of miss my old self, even though my former self was very
unaware of the amount of suffering had by people in the world. I reflect each day on things like homelessness
and prostitution, and like the person above, has got into a habit of keeping up to date with my main concern,
abortion. Reading about that each day has upset me a lot, but I can’t seem to stop reading the news updates
and seem preoccupied with thoughts about the after-lives of beings who are doing these things.

I feel I understand Buddhism more since developing these deeper emotions, but also feel I must not be doing it
in a balanced way because, like the person above, I have begun to feel suicidal/ life is less worth living.

I don’t want to ignore the pain of people, but on the other hand, I would like to spend some of my time as I did
formerly, sort of trusting the universe and practising gratitude and so forth. But if I do that now, its come to the
extent I feel guilty for “cherishing” having a place to live and I start to get quite unhappy almost as if these various
things are happening to me.

I can understand how deeply the suffering of others can impact us, and agree our collective home needs a good scrubbing. Consider that cultivating happiness within yourself is not selfish or self cherishing, rather it honors the suffering of others by increasing the light and love in the world. For instance, if we see a war veteran that lost her legs, it wouldn’t honor her to chop off our own. Rather, we could strengthen our own legs so if she asks us for a push we are prepared to give it. Namaste, friend, you have the heart of a bodhisattva!

With warmth,

Jane, I found your post when I was struggling with a similar thing. Matt, your response hit me like a ton of bricks. All of these responses did actually.

I know this is a very old post but I want to thank all of you for giving me clarity when it comes to empathy, compassion, and pity. I have been weakened by my own empathy and this insight is allowing me to now move to responding to pain and cruelty from a place of strength.

It will take time for me and meditation. Jane, I hope your journey has made you stronger.

  • This reply was modified 3 years, 3 months ago by Beetle.

PETA – People Eating Tasty Animals

In all seriousness, sometimes culls are necessary. The deer population exploded in my area. The predictable population crash happened with deer stacked up like chord wood around watering holes because of the extreme thirst caused by bleeding to death internally from “blue tongue.” Biting gnats spread it like wildfire.

Thank you for keeping this very old post up and running. I, too, am fatigued by empathy. And yet, of course, I feel guilty for complaining about it (what with all the true suffering in the world). It’s a cycle I couldn’t seem to break, but this discussion has truly helped me to see a path towards a more productive (yet still empathetic and compassionate) regimen.

Dear Jane. I fully understand as i have been in the process of « opening my eyes » to the unreal cruelty towards animals with articles, videos, documentaries, etc. The process of « exiting denial completely » is extremely painful, as you end up exhausted by the amout and extent of cruelty AND how essentially very few people care enough to bother pondering where that bacon / hamburger / etc comes from… on top of this « indirect cruelty through denial of reality », there is the pain felt about « why / how » these cruel people exist and sleep at night… it is a heavy burden to carry…

But in the end, you must deeply ponder and live by the very wise words of the saying: « O Lord give me the courage to change what must change, the strength to accept what i cannot, and the wisdom to tell the difference. »

You will not eradicate cruelty from this world. Not now and not within your lifetime. Nobody will. But each little contribution will eradicate cruelty in the long run. A typical human and animal lives less than 1 second in cosmic time. The Universe is 15 billion years. Earth is 5 billion years. There are at least 100 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 planets in our Universe. We come to Earth like those flies that live 24 hours… let go!! Without denial… letting go is NOT denial, and is also NOT inaction. If you want to help animals and humans, do it, yes, by all means, get invilved and make that small difference… from a place of love. And i know that part is incredibly hard, because when you become very aware and informed, you tend to hate humans and humanity, because the supply of cruelty, cynicism, and apathetic denial seems to dwarf everything that shines… it seems that way, but it’s not quite like that…

Social norms have evolved a great deal. 5000 years ago, slavery was very standard. 2000 years ago, walking the streets of Rome and seeing fields of people crucified and being eaten alive by birds was standard. 300 years ago in the USA you could buy humans on an open market and dispose of them as you wanted. 70 years ago, people were « dry castrated » in UK for being gay and women could not vote… these are all things that have been eradicated.

I grant you that all these great improvements did not much extend to animals, but it is starting to make its way…

You needed to become aware and « confront reality » and the « cold facts. » ok: mission accomplished. Now, it is time to help yourself by shining again, which will help others, including animals. Get involved with animals rights if you want, but remember the big big BIG picture, remember that you are not helping animals or changing anything by watching videos of cruelty… the people doing these acts are lost and blind. We are clueless about the grand mystery of life and why all this cruelty is there. We just don’t know. Maybe we (you and i) were the cruelest animal and people torturers in another life and now we are feeling the need for purification? Who knows!

Add a lantern to the darkness in the world by shining with love, knowledge, and compassion… for all humans, all animals… all life… and yes remain in « action and reality », but at the same time… « let go »… regards. P.

It’s been so helpful reading this…I feel crippled by sorrow sometimes when it comes to animal suffering, to the point where it dominates my every thought. It’s so counterproductive since I can’t help anyone in this state, yet it seems almost impossible to escape. I already avoid social media for fear of horrible posts or videos, but of course you still see and hear about these things.

I found this post after googling How to Cope with the Suffering of Animals. A midnight search after waking in pain about the hunting of whales. I have recently been to watch the beautiful humpbacks in Iceland so when I read about the hunts I was immediately connected to the suffering and the pain. And didn’t know how to calm myself. I didn’t want to numb myself or turn away but such a reaction isn’t helping anyone.

Thank you so much to Jane for asking the original question and to Matt for his incredible and wise answer.

I don’t think I have ever understood so clearly the difference between empathy and compassion. Of course because I am extra connected with the whales after my holiday, the empathy route is more open than ever. Just as when my friend had a new baby, her empathy connection with other babies and their cries was extra strong.

It is good to be empathic and helps in so many ways but of course it needs managing – boundaries and conscious work to keep it from overwhelming me

Compassion on the other hand is for all beings – the hunter and the hunted.

Amazing and powerful post. Thank you all for contributing and for clarifying something deeply important to me.

Best wishes to you all

I love your style of writing, both your tone and your words.

I am so very thankful to Jane for starting this conversation and for Tiny Buddha for keeping this post running. Similar to Kate, I stumbled upon this thread while searching how to deal with the suffering of others/animals. I do animal rights education/activism and have found it difficult to function or be active right now bc I don’t know how to cope with the suffering of all the animals at our mercy that we hurt for no reason.

So grateful for this post and for Matt and others here who speak to this topic to assist others experiencing this. It has been so helpful to find this and to learn better how to manage. My sincerest of thanks and gratitude. I will return to this or print it out so I can look over it again and again.

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Beetle grinder — what means will help to cope with it?

Raise your hand if you have ever cut what you thought was a perfect crown cope only to find out it was open on the top or bottom? I’m raising my hand, too!

There is a great deal of misunderstanding about how copes work: for many carpenters, pressured by the need to ‘get the job done,’ cope joints are mysterious puzzles they haven’t the time or the patience to solve. But if we understand what makes a coped joint work then every cope can fit perfectly on the first try.

This cope is open on the bottom because the preparatory miter was cut incorrectly! (Note: Click any image to enlarge)

I’ve heard all kinds of reasons why cope joints won’t close up tight: The framing sucked; the walls were out of square, the building was 200 years old, or most often, the sheetrocker was a slob. Sure, those are fair points to make, but cope joints solve nearly all those problems! To prove my point, I built a mockup corner with a moveable wall, which demonstrates conclusively that a proficient trim carpenter can overcome a lot of jobsite chaos.

Cope joints are fast and flexible

The mockup I designed in the previous video that Gary used proves that—with a slight adjustment—a cope joint will accommodate a corner that is 2 degrees out of square, and 2 degrees over a 12-ft. wall is 5 in. out of square.

A cope joint can still close tightly, even if the ceiling is out, too. This is why progressive carpenters who care about craftsmanship, as well as production finish carpentry crews, cope all inside corners. The joinery is tighter, and coping is faster than mitering. Cut a cope a little long and snap it in place—it will close up even tighter. And if you cut that square end a 1/16-in. short? No problem! A cope will cover all of it but the very bottom edge.

If you do cut miters for inside corners, each piece must be cut precisely the right angle and length. If a mitered molding is too long, the long point will bury itself in the drywall, making it impossible to mate the miter joint. Cut a miter too short—well, you all know what that means—cut a brand new piece.

Why copes work better

When we cut a 45-degree miter joint on baseboard and discover it doesn’t close because the walls aren’t square, there’s no choice but to re-cut the miter. However, that’s not the case with a cope joint.

If you look at the bottom of the base with a miter cut, you can easily visualize a 45-degree right triangle. Remember back to high school math: in a 45-degree right triangle, both sides are equal. So if the molding is 3/4-in. thick, then the base of the triangle must be 3/4-in. long. That means the miter cut is 3/4-in. deep from the long point at the back of the molding, to the short point at the front of the molding.

Now imagine a cope cut following that miter: the cope will be precisely 3/4-in. deep, exactly the thickness of the molding, and the joint will fit perfectly every time. At this point, I think it is important to stress what the word “cope” actually means: this isn’t a psychology class or a self-help book; in carpentry (and in life, too!) we don’t cope with molding, we cope to molding—we cut molding, shelving, countertops, decking, casing, and cabinets so that they fit to other surfaces or features. And that is a task of skill and beauty.

Sprung crown

Now let’s go back to the first sentence in this article: How many of us have cut a sprung crown miter and noticed that the cut was off? I mean, from just looking at the miter, not the joint. On baseboard, it’s easy to notice a poorly cut miter; on sprung crown, it’s tough to see if the cut is correct.

At presentations and carpentry clinics, I call this a shell game: can you spot the correct cut? Here we have three miter cuts all done at 45 degrees. To find out which cut is correct we need to measure each piece. With solid crown and baseboard, it’s easy to measure the right length of the miter—it needs to equal the thickness; with sprung crown, you need to know the ceiling projection in order to be able to measure the length of the miter cut. Remember to think of the ceiling projection as the thickness of the crown if it were solid.

Miter saw setup

So how do we make certain that our preparatory miter for a cope cut is perfect?

When I first started installing crown molding, I was taught to place the molding in position, “upside down and backwards,” in my miter saw, then rock it until it was bedded flat against the base of the saw and the fence, too! Then draw a line across the bottom of the crown (that’s the top when it’s upside down in your saw) marking the miter saw fence, and try to hold the crown at that line while cutting it. But there are two problems with that approach.

First, you shouldn’t attempt to position the crown so that it’s flat against the fence and the base of the saw. Focus only on the fence! If the crown molding is flat against the fence, you’ll be cutting it at the intended spring angle—the spring angle is the angle the molding ‘springs’ from the wall, and the fence represents the wall! You’ll also notice that with the crown flat against the wall or your miter saw fence, the shoulder at the ceiling should touch only on the very outer edge of the crown. That is the way well-designed crown should land—so that irregularities in the ceiling won’t prohibit the crown from contacting the ceiling.

Check out this video Gary did with still photos for his original Conquering Crown DVD:

The second problem with that old-fashioned approach is the pencil line. It’s really difficult to hold the molding right on the pencil line, and if you do, you have to lock your hand dangerously on the crown. And even then, if your saw blade is a little dull, or the material is dense hardwood, the molding will resist the blade, the blade will push down on the material, and the spring angle will change as you’re cutting the crown.

Holding the crown in position by hand does not work. And it’s dangerous.

Cutting on the flat isn’t the best solution either and introduces a host of other problems. If the crown is cupped—and most coved crown has at least a slight cup because that’s the nature of wood—it is almost impossible to get consistent cuts because the molding won’t lie flat on the base of the saw, which changes the position for each cut. Further, when I have to cut on the flat, I often have to use a crown chart or an angle finder, like the Bosch angle finder that provides miter and bevel settings for crown molding with any spring angle. For those reasons, I cut on the flat only when the crown is too large to cut in position. Plus, who wants to set miter and bevel angles to a tenth of a degree.

A simple crown stop

I like to use a crown stop for all my cuts, both for copes and outside miters. One setup covers everything. And I use a crown holder, too. Here’s a video that explains the saw setup, crown stop, and how to make a crown holder. Don’t just use the crown holder for the cope joints, it’s great for outside miters as well!

Like many finish carpenters, Gary Katz prefers to use a crown holder—a lesson he learned from David Collins, which works just fine for the majority of jobs. But if you’re working in a home with ceilings that aren’t anywhere near flat—bows and bellies and waves, then cut a 24-in. piece of crown with a cope on one end. Use that coped piece, along with a straight cut piece, to mark the drop of the crown in each corner—when those two pieces fit together tightly, you’ll know the drop is spot on!


Bill Shaw studied mechanical engineering and spent a year in the corporate world before deciding it was not for him. During the next ten years Bill started and co-owned an auto repair shop and then worked as a cabinetmaker.

The cabinet shop manufactured flooring on cabinet-making equipment, which seemed very inefficient. Thinking there was a better way, Bill opened his own business, with a leased Weinig moulder, knife grinder, and a used straight-line rip saw. The next 20 years were spent manufacturing custom moulding. While delivering the moulding to the job sites, Bill would check in with the customers asking if there was anything else he could do. More than one customer answered by saying, “Yeah, why don’t you cope this stuff before you deliver it.”

With that goal in mind, Bill collaborated with his father-in-law, Martin Scott, a retired engineer/machinist, which led to the development of the Copemaster. Two years of field testing produced the first version, which won the prestigious Challenger’s Award at the 2002 International Woodworking Fair.

When not producing Version 2 of the Copemaster, Bill can be found with the love of his life—his wife Loure, and in the machine shop, wood shop, or out on his dirt bike (a 50-year passion, which started at age 18).


17 Responses to “Cutting & Coping Crown Molding”

Hi, first video has no sound

Works for me. Could be the video is only outputting on one channel, either the left or right and you are not out putting that side. Just happened to me where I only had one speaker working.

Even though I am retired after over 40 years in the construction business, I always learn something new and helpful by your carpentry videos. Have met you several times during your treks to Philadelphia. Always interesting, always great useful information. Keep up the good work.

Great article , I would love to try a copemaster .
We are currently coping crowns (that are under 6 inches )
With a speed coper jig , I haven’t tried the Collins coping foot

I would add that I prefer cutting on the flat . It is the most accurate method that I have found to consistently cut large quantities of crown , providing one keeps sharp blades.

The only time I , or my crew prefers to bed is when cutting a lot of small pieces for mantels or such or , running vaults

Thanks , great article , well written , love the videos.

Too bad you’re cutting everything on the flat. Cutting nested, or ‘in-position’ is twice as fast, and you can cut mating miters–grain matching every single piece in a stain-grade room, with incredible ease. Cutting on the flat with a sharp blade may seem efficient and precise, but if the crown has even a small cup on the back, it will throw off your compound miter in wacky ways. But, as I like to say: If it works for you….!

As I stated in my comment , cutting on the flat
Is our preference on large quantities of long
Wide profiles , however cutting nested is (definitely) not twice as fast , I do agree with the mating stain grade corners.
As for the crown being cupped , you are correct , however
Cutting nested is not perfect either , you will still get an inaccurate cut in the center where the cup is located.

Saw manufacturers make both types of saws for a reason. We all have preferences. For large crown with a cup I will double stick tape shims to the saw table to keep the crown from rocking. For a outside miter on a 7″ crown with a spring angle of 41 degrees and a corner that is 89 degrees, I would prefer to set a crown stop and swing the saw to 45.5 degrees instead of doing all the figuring and then setting the two angles to tenths of a degree. In position might be quiet a bit faster in that situation.
Some of us cut all of our cope cuts at 45 degrees while others will measure the corner and adjust the miter angle for the cope cut. For larger crowns and corners 1 degree out of square or more, that can help with the fitting of the cope. In that case I again would prefer in position to avoid calculations and two setting.

Great article as always. Quick question. In the second video, the extensions on Gary’s saw, are those these just without the fence?

I am trying to understand your last statement in the article. I’ve run into this a few times and I am trying to figure out the best way to correct it. In my situation, the ceiling is wavy so in the corners, the first piece is high and tight to the ceiling and the coped piece coming into it is dropped down leaving about an 1/8″ or so gap between the crown and the ceiling (just in the corner about 4″ – 6″). So are you using your test pieces that you describe to mark how low the first piece should be installed to put it on the same plane as the coped piece? How are you eliminating the gap? Do you scribe it? Do you have any pictures to illustrate what you are talking about?

In the first video with the movable wall you can see the coped piece is setting the square cut piece. If the wall and ceiling form a 91 or 92 degree angle then the coped piece will be going uphill as it goes away from the corner. By using a two or three foot coped piece to set the square cut piece you will be compensating for the rise. I still leave the square cut piece free for the last 4 or 5 feet and let the finished cope piece do the final locating. With a situation as you describe I would think floating the ceiling the best result. Not a big fan of scribe or caulk as it changes the look of the top edge of the crown but sometimes its unavoidable due to cost and time constraints.

Mike J, we glue all of our crown and where the ceiling isn’t flat we will persuade the crown to bend to fit with pole clamps. I’d love to have seen a short video demonstrating how you’re actually cutting & coping a few pieces and then installing it, I’ve coped crown occasionally but usually default to mitered joints. We almost always use 6″ crown (or larger) and thus it gets cut lying flat instead of in position. I LOVED the hint about the Carvex light. I bought the Carvex after using a friend’s to cut through 1 1/4″ MDF for some decorative shaped gables for upper cabinets. The blade stayed straight and the cut required very little sanding. After buying it though, I find it actually goes out of plumb just as much as my old makita cordless. The strobe light is annoying, not helpful. The zero clearance plastic chip guards splinter close to the blade and just obscure the view of cut lines. Combining the chip guard and the dust shroud shield, makes it almost impossible to see and it still doesn’t do that great a job of sucking the dust, not to mention the hose tends to drag or catch on the edge of the material and try to force the jigsaw to go astray. I get so annoyed I almost never use it.

Just ordered the Copemaster 2! Bill walked me thru what to expect and how it worked and what to do! If I dont just completely screw the pooch on my cuts this thing should make me money hand over fist coping both crown and base!! Super stoked to get the CM2 this week and get my money printing press in action!!

Will talk you thru it on the phone. To hard to write a comprehensive instruction set. The videos on your website will get you going and you can always call with questions.

Hello New Bestie!
I am taking Heritage Carpentry and Joinery in college right now and we are replicating moulding for a project in Architectural Millwork.
It was suggested that we read this article and I have found it truly informative and influential!
I love the videos and the instructions are dead on what our Professor is teaching, he really likes your stuff too.
I will stay tuned for sure from Ontario Canada!

Hi Shawna
Glad to see that type of course being taught. I manufactured custom moulding for 20 plus years and reproduces lots of profiles.
When redoing a crown moulding, don’t worry about the spring angle. Try and keep the back side parallel to two high spots(as far apart as possible) on the front side. This will reduce the thickness of wood needed and allow the chip breaker to hold down the moulding as it exists the moulder, reducing chatter.

Well if you ride a Beta you got my attention ! Lol Trials bike also, very cool. Nice article about Coping too, by the way.

Few things are more enjoyable than clean coped joints and Beta motorcycles!

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